The Yankees offered Joe Torre an "insulting" contract because they didn't want him anymore, and that was their way of letting him know that. The Yankees definitely still want Jeter, but they are going to treat him like they would any other player and give him something he deserves based on his performance on the field. It's not going to be something "insulting," it'll just be less than the $21 million he made last season. And if he gets insulted by that, then he has issues. The guy's got millions and millions...it shouldn't be a big deal to take less money - he'll never spent it all anyway. And the Steinbrenners have made it clear that they will pay him what they think is a fair amount, based on his skills. They are the bosses, and Jeter should respect that. It's not like they are going to offer him peanuts, he'll still get a nice contract. It'll just be less than his previous one.
Ok, you are both quite silly. You are listening to the media and not thinking about the reality of the situation. Derek Jeter is the captain of the Yankees and the face of the franchise. While Rivera is arguably more important (and I would take that argument), Jeter is the face. Thus, he will be back. His role might change, but he'll be a part of the team.
So why then are the Steinbrenners "playing Hardball"?
They aren't exactly. A lot of people thought the Yankee would literally hand Jeter and his agent a blank check and sign him for whatever he desires. However, the Steinbrenners (well, really just Hal because Hank is out of his damn mind) understand the business well and won't do that. They want Jeter back as much as everyone else, and will get the deal done. However, they have a goal for what they want to pay him and Jeter has a number he wants to be paid. Both will be lower than his salary now, but he's still going to be well compensated.
My prediction is that he gets offered 3 years, 30 million from the Yankees. This will seem "insulting" but it's just a starting point. I predict the final contract is for 4 years (4th will be an option year) and about 75 mil. I know it seems like a lot, but it's going to happen. The Yankees are loyal to a fault. This will be no different.
Oh, and Brad, your second video is just silly. For one thing, there is actually a minimum salary in baseball so no one can actually play for a dollar a game. He could play for the league minimum which I believe is 400K for the season, but we all know that no player of Jeter's credentials should or would play for that, regardless of what they make in endorsements.
As for the Torre comment, you shouldn't tell someone else to learn history when you don't know it yourself. They weren't trying to "save money" on a manager. The Yankees and Joe Torre were ready to part ways and the final straw was a lowbrow offer which the Yanks knew he wouldn't take. Torre knew well beforehand that he wasn't coming back and this was just a token offer to say that they offered. The team hadn't won a world series in 7 years or been to one in 4. Changes were on the horizon and Torre was out. To say that it was a money issue is silly. I suggest reading Torre's book written by Tom Verducci "The Yankee Years". It'll give you good insight on the subject.
I am an equal opportunity pest though, so Virginia, you are next! I know this season was his worst as a pro, but Jeter also had a down year a couple of years ago and people thought he was done then. He then bounced back to hit .334 and have one of his best years in the field. I'm not sure whether he's truly declining or not, but to say for certain that he is might be premature. Let's see how he does this coming year, especially if the Yankees can find an infielder good enough to allow Jeter some days off from the field/full days of rest. That extra rest might result in a bounce back year for the captain.
Derek Jeter will get a paycut and it should be a major one. He's the most overrated player in MLB history right up there with Ichiro. The one thing Jeter possesses is instincts to where the batter is going to hit the all, so he doesn't usually have to cover a lot of ground at short.
If Jeter does need to cover ground then he shows what exactly is his problem and that is his noodle arm, Jeter has one of the weakest arms at short. Unlike someone like Rafael Furcal, Jeter has to make jump throws just to get the ball to first, a short stop like Furcal just has to plant his foot and fire across to first.
As for Jeter being the leader of the Yankees, it doesn't take much. I could lead the Yankees! Why? Cause truly it's not hard to win with an owner who throws money at the best players on the free agent market.
Imagine if the Yankees had to do it like a small market team, build around one player, develop pitching, etc....Do you think Jeter could have led the team then? The answer is no!
Hence, the overrated tag. If Jeter was on the Royals would he be getting the same amount of attention? The answer is no!
Jeter needs a paycut if he isn't willing to accept then the Yankees shouldn't try to resign him.
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