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Kirk just isn't the same player he was a few seasons ago. He has flashes here and there but he just isn't the same guy. He still plays solid defense. His court vision was never that great but good. He was an ok shooter but his %'s have dropped across the board
How is his current 0-5 performance in game 2 helping you argument?
He still hasn't taken more than 8 shots in either game. He's a volume scorer and he needs more shots. You can't expect a guy to find the zone if he's getting 8 shots all game.
If Kirk is getting more then 10 shots he is getting way too many shots it is either a blow out one way or another
He had 20 shots against the Celtics in the second to the last game of the season. It was a close game throughout, and he put up 30 points.
He proved for three straight seasons he could put up 15+ points per game, and he did this easily. It wasn't until injuries and the drafting of Rose that his role in the offense diminished significantly.
It's not like I'm promoting Earl Watson or Charlie Bell. Kirk Hinrich is a good basketball player, and he deserves better.
No his number dropped right after having his best year. What really worries me about Hinrich is besides his averages dropping his shooting %s have dropped across the board including his free throw
Yeah, but since when has he been the poster boy for elite shooting percentages? You don't have to be great with percentages to score in the NBA. He still shoots 37% from three, and has never went below 35% in any year, and he's 40% overall, which really isn't that bad for a guard. It's not great, but it's about average.
No one is saying he's playing elite basketball. My point is if he had a bigger role, his mentality would change and he'd have a chance at getting back to the player he was.
The way you spin it, you make it sound like he's just some white trash guy who is nice and can play defense here and there. That's not the case at all. This guy went off against Boston in the playoffs last year, and showed how good he can be when he's involved.
In the final five games in a series that went to 7 games, the guy took at least 10 shots in each game, topping 14 points in 4 of 5, and topping at least 10 in all 5.
And he shot at least 50% in 5 of those 7 games.
You don't look like you're a basketball player, so maybe you don't know this, but a shooter needs his shots to have an impact. Give Kobe Bryant or Dwyane Wade just 8 shots per game, and you'll see them struggle just as much. Scorers need time and flexibility to be able to find their offense.
Really I don't look like a basketball player? You are going to take it there?
I used to play basketball and I have been a season ticket holder for all but Kirk's rookie year and have seen him miss shot after wide open shot. Every now and then he goes off like he did in that Boston game to end the season and like he did last night against the Cavs but that is not the norm.
How many guys who are the third guy on a team get's more then 10 shots a night because elite players take 20 or more. Few years ago I thought Hinrich had a chance to be like Nash but not anymore. I'm a big fan of Hinrich but his offense is not his best quality.
He went off and scored in double digits, are you serious? What he did last night was going off
By the way did you check out the article?
I wasn't trying to "take it there". Sorry if that sounded offensive.
But last night supports my argument, whether you like it or not.
First two games, max shots he takes is 8. Third game, he shoots 12 shots, scores 27 points.
If nothing else, my logic wins out in this argument. Because it's the way it is. When he gets his shots, more often than not, he produces.
game 1: 4-10 FG 0-2 3pt for 8 points didn't make it to the line in 44 minutes of action.
Game 2: 2-8 FG, 1-3 3pt for 5 points again didn't make it to the line played 36 minutes
Game 3: 9-12 FG, 4-4 3pt, 5-8 FT for 27 points in 39 minutes of action
Game 4: 3-13 FG 2-3 3PT 2-2 FT for 10 points in 34 minutes
For the series averages 11 shots per game shooting 42% FG 58% from 3 and 38 minutes. But subtract game 3 and he is shooting 29% FG 38% form 3.
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